off-road.cc is dedicated to bringing you the best coverage of all off-road riding, Our sister site for road bikes... road.cc ROTOR: Our current range of 1x direct mount & 110 x 4 spider mount rings are compatible with the range of SRAM Eagle & Flat-top chains. SRAM’s groupsets have all been 12-speed for a while, but the new SX group drops their Eagle 10-50 tooth cassette tech to the lowest price ever. The SRAM NX Eagle in detail. May 30, 2019 By ... SLX M7100 10-51 12-speed cassette ... Do not let a salesperson or mechanic or a guy with a trenchcoat selling cheap chains sell you any other chain than a Shimano HG+ 12-speed chain. New wheelsets often come with one if it's likely to need it. Once again, you'll need to check with your hub manufacturer. Drivetrain. Recently, though, Shimano announced their long overdue 12-speed to compete with SRAM’s iconic Eagle – which is already available from XX down to their entry-level NX groupset. … Using SRAM cassettes with Shimano drivetrains and vice versa, The best (and worst) mountain bike upgrades under £100. When Shimano created their 12-speed drivetrains, they also created a brand new freehub standard called Micro Spline. Unlike XD, Micro Spline is not based on a HG body, so it's possible for a specific hub design that works with HG and XD not to be able to be converted to Micro Spline. ... SL-NX1-PA-B1. NX Eagle may be less expensive, but that doesn't equate to a significant performance difference or any less fun on the trail. If you are fitting a SRAM 11-speed cassette, then things are a bit trickier. Shimano has also not made Micro Spline and open standard, which means that if your hub could work with Micro Spline, the hub manufacturer might not be able to make one. SLX 1×12 cranksets will feature Hollowtech II technology with an integrated axle and hollow crank arms. If you are fitting a Shimano or Shimano compatible 11-speed cassette, then a normal HG body is fine. Where it gets tricky is how the cassette attached to the freehub body. What do I need for 8, 9 and 10-speed cassettes? Both 12-speed setups from SRAM and Shimano share the same sprocket spacings and it's the same with both brand's 11-speed groups. Deore XT and GX Eagle are 200-250 grams lighter than more entry-level drivetrains like SLX and NX Eagle, which both tip the scales at over 2,000 grams. SRAM´s XX1 Eagle AXS kit allows for wireless controlled rear derailleurs. This guide deals with the most common mountain bike setups - road cycling cassette and freehub compatibility (and gravel as an extension of that) is a whole different kettle of fish, we're afraid. Shimano: 245g (£49.99 / $64.99); SRAM: 263g (£58 / $60); Shimano XTR M9100 vs SRAM X01 Eagle AXS overall. SRAM offering a 12 speed 1x drivetrain that doesn't necessitate an upgrade to an XD driver from your existing splined freehub may not be a step forward in technology, but it will be a huge move in terms of practicality for a lot of riders. If it's 11T you need HG. How many spacers should I install on my bottom bracket? 1X Drive Train. Whilst I do agree the SRAM has a slightly better feel, it has for us proved to be less robust and reliable in our group, we have had 3 GX shifters break under normal use, 3 GX Rear Mech clutches fail … This aids chain retention and the quietness of the drivetrain. Price: $545. RD-NX-1-B1. Between friends and kids and my bikes we run Shim SLX, Sram GX and NX. Even Rotor's 13-speed hydraulic group uses an HG body for the cassette, though the hub itself uses different spacing. It's best to split this into two sections for SRAM and Shimano 12-speed systems as it's where they begin to diverge significantly. I'm glad that I went with the eagle option, I know shimano just came out with and XTR 12 speed drivetrain but I see that being another year or two for that to trickle down to XT and SLX. If it's got 10T, you need an XD body. I have a Rotor Oval 54T chainring with Shimano ultra-drivetrain. This guide will help you pick the right one, whether it's from SRAM or Shimano, the XD, HG or Micro Spline standard or for a 9, 10, 11 or 12-speed cassette. In order to accommodate this compatibility, there's one less tooth on the smallest cog, which is almost negligible for your top-end gearing. The heart of every drivetrain, especially with the Eagle system, is the cassette. If it's not possible to get the freehub body for your hub that fits the cassette that you want, it is possible to play mix and match between SRAM and Shimano 12-speed cassettes. PG-1230 Eagle Cassette. SRAM Eagle Grip Shift. Yes, he's been around the houses. It's compatible with XD, but once again, you'll need to add a small spacer. Shimano XT 12 Speed Vs SRAM Eagle 12 Speed - Which Should I buy? The NX Eagle 12 Speed Mountain Bike Groupset from SRAM offers all the top technologies of SRAM's XX1 and X01 drivetrains at a price that won't break the bike. Who makes Micro Spline wheelsets and hubs for Shimano 12-speed groupsets? Again, if you’re strapped for cash, get the SLX one. The PG-1230 NX Eagle 12-Speed Cassette gives you nearly the same range as SRAM's other Eagle cassettes, but it works with normal splined freehub bodies, so there's no need for an XD driver. $42. I hope when Shimano finally does SLX 12 speed… Higher-end SRAM 11-speed drivetrains use a special XD freehub but the more affordable SRAM 11-speed groups use a normal HG freehub body. The shifter is no frills, but still it's still Matchmaker compatible and it functioned flawlessly. SRAM has also released a road version know as XDR, which is used for its 12-speed eTap AXS road group. Sram NX Eagle. That does leave 11-speed Shimano Deore looking a bit last-generation, but in terms of workhorse performance, it’s still an awesome option i… Joyously, almost all of these cassettes share the same freehub body standard, whether they're from SRAM, Shimano or any other brand. It's usually a system of splines that the cassette slides onto before being locked in place, but there are a number of standards that aren't compatible with each other, so it's vital to know what you've got and what you need. Here's a quick look at each component, with suggestions for upgrades or options. While there are plenty of aftermarket cassette manufacturers out there - e*Thirteen, Sun Race and others - almost all of these conform to either the HG or XD freehub body standards. Spinning a 51T in the rear compared to a 50T changes the RPM at your crank by less than 2%. It's shorter than the 8-speed and above design, so those cassettes won't fit on it. New. That means that if you want to run a 12-speed Shimano group but don't want to get a Micro Spline hub, you could use a SRAM 12-speed cassette with either an XD or HG freehub body. NX Eagle DUB Crankset. The crank is equipped with a direct-mount system for easy chainring mounting and cranksets come with a 30t, 32t, or 34t chainring option, interchangeable with XTR a… Cassette: 12 Speed. It's not seen on mountain bike wheels, but it's possible it will crop up on gravel bikes. If you're any freehub or cassette related queries below, feel free to ask and we'll update this article. It uses fairly shallow splines that extend the full length of the freehub body. Your complete guide to Shimano MTB drivetrains, from Tourney to XTR 12-speed. There are a lot of similarities in the NX Eagle drivetrain with GX Eagle but, the cassette is a different story. Source: sram.com. Both 12-speed setups from SRAM and Shimano share the same sprocket spacings and it's the same with both brand's 11-speed groups. Jon was previously the editor here at off.road.cc. Report more agile Sram Eagle: 34 ÷ 50 = 0.68; More agile ratio Shimano XTR 9100: 34 ÷ 51 = 0.666; That is equivalent to a 10 speed drivetrain with a 36T maximum gear out back utilizing a 24T chainring for Shimano and a (non-existant) 24.5T for SRAM. Shimano is my preference over Sram but not much difference between this and the NX in performance and durability. I'm very happy with my Shimano SLX shifter and mech, Sunrace cassette,1x11 set up and don't consider I will need to go 1x12 anytime soon. SRAM. In terms of price, the first good news is that it’s a great time to buy. Shimano has released its own proprietary 12-speed freehub design, called Microspline. Price: $375. SRAM Eagle Groupsets Compared - XX1 vs X01 vs GX vs NX vs SX Shimano Drivetrain Comparison - XTR vs. XT vs. SLX vs. Deore Upgrade to SRAM Eagle 10-52 - Compatibility I am switching to the SRAM 1 x 12 speed drivetrain. I really can't find anything to pick apart in this drivetrain. CS-PG-1230-A1. Sram GX Eagle. If the tool stays stationary, you have a freewheel - but if the tool moves with the cogs, then it's a freehub design. Once again, the way to tell is to see whether the smallest sprocket on the cassette has 10 or 11 teeth. To do this, SRAM has reduced the Eagle’s wingspan: instead of 10-50T, NX Eagle is 11-50T. As we said before, this isn’t the weight of … If you tighten down your cassette lockring but the sprockets on the cassette still move or rattle, then you likely need this spacer to be fitted. This is generally carried out via cables however new technology from both SRAM and Shimano has changed the game. Is my current chainring compatible with 12 speed and if not, do you make one? This means you can shift through technology and are easily installed. There is one wide spline and one thinner spline that key the cassette in a specific orientation - you'll need to make sure these line up with the corresponding features on the cassette when fitting. Your complete guide to SRAM … The freehub is an essential part of your bike - without it, you'd always have to be pedalling as long as you're moving. Sram vs Shimano Groupset Comparison Guide will give a side by side breakdown of Sram’s and Shimano’s group sets, comparing their price, features and lineup placement. All material © Farrelly Atkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA1 1JB. If it's got 10T, you need an XD body. The quick way to tell which you have is to remove your wheel, insert the splined tool used to remove a cassette or freehub into the corresponding splines on the hub and then move the sprockets backwards. If it's 11T you need HG. My Buddy uses Sram NX 1x11 and has no issues and has been on par with my set up so far. The exception to that is Hope's short-range DH cassette, which fits onto a unique freehub that fits only to their Pro4 and Pro2 EVO hubs. Your complete guide to SRAM MTB drivetrains, from AXS and XX1 Eagle to NX. Done. Reviews, buying advice and news. The 11 by 50 tooth cassette mounts on a standard splined driver body. Like XTR and XT, the new SLX groupset is available in a few variants, with 1×11 or 2×11 options. This groupset includes SRAM's well-known bottom bracket 'DUB' system, which improves performance between the crank, spindle and bottom bracket for a smoother ride whatever the terrain. It's best to check with your hub manufacturer to see if it's possible to swap them - XD is an open standard, so anyone can use this body on their hubs, without having to license it from SRAM. Without beating around the bush, the 12-speed Shimano SLX drivetrain has features that I prefer over GX. SRAM drivetrains once again found a home on my bikes when the 12-speed option was released and like many, I've been quite happy with the performance. NX Eagle Crankset. New. You will need to use this on every 12-speed Shimano MTB drivetrain created so far, from XTR to Deore. Many riders were stoked when SRAM launched their 12-speed. 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Campagnolo also uses a totally different design of freehub body for their road groups, but we can safely ignore that as they're yet to create a modern MTB drivetrain. $105 - $121. NX Eagle Rear Derailleur. We opted to test the 1×11 version, pairing a 32-tooth ring to the 11-42 cassette out back. Advertising and commercial: sales@off-road.cc, Mountain bike, bikepacking and gravel bikes. Post by joeg26er on Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:55 pm. Freehubs are lighter and allow for the bearings inside to the hub to be spaced more widely for a much stronger axle, so if you intend on doing some proper off-roading, a wheel with a freehub is what you want - it also opens up more upgrade options. It's possible to have this fitted to a mountain bike or gravel wheelset but the solution is a simple, thin spacer fitted to the freehub before the cassette is placed over. Upgrading from #SRAM #Eagle NX or #SX 12 speed drivetrain? $107. That means that if you want to run a 12-speed Shimano group but don't want to get a Micro Spline hub, you could use a SRAM 12-speed cassette with either an XD or HG freehub body. While HG is the most common standard by far, there are still a few fitment pitfalls to be aware of. Although it's not available aftermarket, it is becoming a common sight on a lot of complete bikes, so we took a deep dive to get full groupset weights and some interesting tech details. He's previously been technical editor at BikeRadar.com, editor at What Mountain Bike Magazine and also web editor at Singletrackworld.co.uk. SRAM's 12-speed mountain bike setups use both the XD and HG freehub bodies, once again with the higher-end groups having XD and the more affordable kit using the HG body. Shimano XT 12 Speed Vs SRAM Eagle 12 Speed - Which should I buy? When comparing gear range, the Shimano group has a slightly larger 510% span compared to SRAM’s 500% range but it’s impossible to notice when riding. The chain is also a NX Eagle part, with Eagle… Visit the high-res gallery for more images. Shimano Mic Drops SRAM With XT, SLX 12-speed Groups MTB's Rap Battle is Back On! Remember though, dropped chains can also happen on set ups with a very wide (11 or 12 speed) cassette paired with a small front ring (28, 30t) due to poor chain alignment. SPEED METAL; X-ACTUATION; X-HORIZON; X-SYNC; X-SYNC 2; ZERO LOSS; More. SRAM's SX Eagle groupset uses much of the technology seen on the brand's high-end groups to bring down a wide-range, 12-speed single ring drivetrain to a much lower price point. It's worth pointing out that you might run into shift quality or other unforeseen issues when running a hybrid setup, but it's a useful last resort. It simply works and works well. The XD Driver freehub has remained in use for SRAM’s current 12-speed Eagle mountain bike group. It is intended for its new 12-speed mountain bike group. It's a more modern development of the old freewheel, but instead of having the sprockets permanently attached to the freewheeling mechanism, they're a separate assembly of cogs stacked together, called a cassette. Looking at this for an enduro 27.5x2.6 full suspension bike ... no experience with XT though. The cassette for the group is the PG-1230 12-speed 11-50T shared directly with NX Eagle meaning it will work on standard HG (Shimano-style) freewheel bodies, while giving much of the range of the more premium Eagle groupsets. FC-NX-1-B1. A simple way to tell is to see whether the smallest sprocket on the cassette has 10 or 11 teeth. Before the 12-speed SLX group arrived I’d been happily riding the SRAM equivalent; GX Eagle. NX Eagle is compatible with all SRAM 12-speed Eagle drivetrains (meaning you can mix and match parts). ... 11/12 Speed. An XD freehub body is physically different from an HG body, but the design is actually based on one, so it's very common to be able to buy an XD body that'll fit on a hub that came with an HG body. SRAM's SX Eagle budget 12-speed mountain bike drivetrain: weights and tech specs, Enve expands Foundation collection of gravel wheels, Spinergy unevils all new GX Max gravel wheelset, 5 cool things from Nukeproof, PNW and more, Archer Components D1x Trail with Standard Remote review. I had this debate with myself when buying a new bike (since one bike had the Shimano 11 spd with the E-13 big range hub and the other had eagle). Shimano’s new 12-speed mountain bike technology establishes the new benchmark in mountain bike performance and customization. Shimano surprised everyone by releasing 12-speed SLX at the same time as XT and with so little performance difference between them we know which we’d pick. It’s still 12-speed, making it (almost) fully compatible with all the other Eagle drivetrains, but you still sacrifice around 10 per cent at the top end of the gearing. ... SRAM wins for now. off-road.cc Editorial and general enquiries: info@off-road.cc NX (11 or 12 speed) along with the lower level SRAM brakes found on many new bikes is a good argument for building your own bike from frame up. TS-GS-B1. FC-NX-1-C1. SRAM has also done it's best to confuse people with the introduction of an XDR freehub body for road bikes. Any bikes with more than eight sprockets at the rear are also very unlikely to have a freewheel setup. New. The conventional XX1, X01 and GX Eagle cassettes have a range of 10 to 50 teeth. Even the weakest noodle leg rider wouldn't be able to te… New. ... joeg26er Posts: 118 Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:40 am. The second issue is that when Shimano moved to 11-speed on their road bikes, they made a freehub body for that was slightly longer. One of the key components in this revolutionary drivetrain design is the cassette, and the benefits of Shimano's latest XTR, DEORE XT, and SLX cassettes are significant. It is compatible with an 11 or 12-speed cassette from SRAM. $45. Chainrings come with a Dynamic Chain Engagement+ tooth profile, which is a narrow/wide tooth pattern. New. Single-ring drivetrains go much wider, with SRAM’s 12-speed Eagle-branded drivetrains providing up to a 10-52t spread (11-50t on SX and NX Eagle), while Shimano … Looking at shifting and ridability, let’s compare the XX1 Eagle 1x12 speed against the 1x12 10-51 configuration of the XTR M9100, since that’s the closest apples to apples comparison we can make. If you're looking to upgrade your mountain bike drivetrain, then knowing which freehub you have or need on your rear wheel is essential - and with a plethora of standards about it's not that easy to figure out. Due to its compatibility with non-XD freewheels, the NX Eagle does away with the small 10T sprocket, offering a minimum of 11T instead. You do need to answer this question first, but it's safe to say that most mountain bikes over £500 and built within the past 10 or so years are very unlikely to have a freewheel. 1x vs. 2x chainring options There is one thing Shimano does that SRAM doesn’t — let you shift a front derailleur. 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