Personally I run an all special set with z-ice beam instead of freeze shock, and this thing is a monster with proper prediction. I could add many more examples here but I do not wish to bore. All is not well for Mega Charizard X, as its titanic power and defensive utility come with a price. If you're wondering about OU's Viability Rankings, then you've come to the right place, as in this article I will delve into the various influences and traits of each S rank Pokémon. I'd urge people to open their minds and consider Spectrier and play it for themselves before judging it based of statistics of a metagame that hasn't even settled yet. 1U, 2U, 3U, represents a main tier on Pokémon Perfect – the '1' of '1U' representing the tier level. But this one in particular made me examine something about how Smogon ranks Pokemon independent of usage. Last but not least, Mega Metagross is also quite prone to being worn down by entry hazards, switches into resisted hits, and being crippled by status ailments. Here, we as a community will rank all viable Pokemon into tiers. Life Orb Tank sets are also quite unexpected, possess good firepower, and are capable of aiding Clefable in getting past its usual checks such as Talonflame, Gliscor, and Tentacruel with the appropriate coverage moves. As the long-running joke goes, Smogon loves Stealth Rock more than anything else. Support the stream: https://streamlabs.com/mon6godLINK TO THE LIT DISCORD https://discord.gg/AV5jzta Lastly, Mega Charizard X has a crippling weakness to Stealth Rock, which heavily limits its opportunities to switch in. The threat of subzero slammer means your opponent is almost guaranteed to switch into something that resists it, and this is where it shines. There is almost no doubt that the 7 Pokemon outlined above are going to be top metagame presence. ... GSC OU (OverUsed) Viability Rankings. This is further enhanced by Clefable's access to reliable recovery in the form of Soft-Boiled, allowing it to stay around longer and check threats more easily. Contribute to smogon/pokemon-showdown development by creating an account on GitHub. Lastly, access to Roost, Refresh, and Heal Bell improves Mega Altaria's longevity and matchup against defensive playstyles, making defensive Dragon Dance and supportive sets all the more viable. Vito219 4 years ago #61. Clefable is quite slow, meaning it has to more often than not take a hit and then retaliate. It'll always be good thanks to Mimikyu but it can move down a bit. It loses to too many common things, the 2 you said and Fini and Hippo. Idk about Scolipede never used it this gen though I have one, but I'm most definitely in favor of Cresselia moving up I always use one on my team. To Jaajgko While I apreciate the effort, tournament stats are also not best way to determine how good something is in the meta as a whole. The most widely used ones are Hammer Arm and Grass Knot, rendering the only few viable counters the likes of Mega Scizor, Slowking, and Alomomola. BOP THELE IT IS. OU Viability Rankings: The Best of the Best . Does this mean that both Cresselia and Scolipede will move up? The ORAS Metagame Discussion thread is an open platform to discuss any aspects of the current state of the ORAS metagame. Afterall it is not uncommon for things to change very quickly. A little like its fellow S-rank Fairy, Mega Altaria, Clefable possesses a crazy amount of versatility, owing to its colorful movepool that consists of many coverage moves such as Flamethrower, Ice Beam, and Thunderbolt, and utility options such as Stealth Rock, Thunder Wave, and Knock Off, which allow Clefable to muscle past many of its checks and counters. Calm Mind + Magic Guard has the luxury of being immune to residual damage, meaning that Clefable cannot be crippled by status or entry hazards, and combined with Clefable's great defensive potential, it can successfully set up on many Pokémon, while Stealth Rock sets provide ample support. However, don't be fooled into thinking Mega Metagross is a one-trick pony, as such a colorful movepool also allows Mega Metagross to successfully pull off quite a few other sets, such as Rock Polish, Pursuit, Hone Claws, and Substitute + Power-Up Punch sets. Doubles OU is a format in which both players have two Pokémon on the field at the same time. Their positive traits still outshine their negatives, but they require a bit more team support to bring out their full potential. Bulky Will-O-Wisp sets allow Mega Charizard X to cripple a lot of its checks, such as Mega Altaria, Azumarill, Tyranitar, Landorus-T, Hippowdon, Slowbro, and Rhyperior, and such sets are especially great in tandem with entry hazards because of Dragon Tail being able to phaze the foe and rack up residual damage. Consider these sorta my day 1 impressions, but mine are probably going to be different since I started a little over a week after the ladder opened up! Clefable boasts a stellar mono-Fairy typing alongside decent defensive stats, allowing it to function as an answer to many Pokémon such as Mega Manectric, Mega Lopunny, Thundurus, Latios, Garchomp, Latias, Kyurem-B, Mega Diancie, Chansey, Mega Sableye, Mega Alakazam, Slowbro, Mega Gallade, Weavile, Manaphy, and Mega Gyarados. I promise this isn't a ploy to fish for likes, probably. Smogon OU Viability Rankings Update #4 w NJNP and Gary BOP THELE IT IS. SE Tomb is still weaker than STAB EQ... Hi, now that the meta has had more time to sit we've decided to update stuff since the current rankings are very drastically out of date. So I did about 50 battles yesterday and got to 1810. So instead of posting about the same, I will instead post about my opinions on the Pokemon that are next up on the list: I managed to go 25-4 to reach Rank 1 on cart yesterday (pic for proof below) using. The OU Viability Ranking thread shows how well every OU-viable Pokémon fares in the OU tier. Pokemon in this rank have very few flaws that are patched up by numerous positive traits. Embora todos os Pokémon não Uber possam ser usados em OU, apenas aqueles com usagem de 3,41% do total pesado na tier são designados como "OU". Smogon » The Smog » Issue 44 » OU Viability Rankings: The Best of the Best. Mega Altaria can be described as a 'jack of all trades', owing to its well-rounded stats and versatility, allowing it to successfully pull off numerous viable sets, such as offensive Dragon Dance, defensive Dragon Dance, special attacker, and support. In fact, considering all of Mega Altaria's viable sets and coverage moves, the number of viable hard counters to Mega Altaria comes to a grand total of one — Mega Venusaur. JavaScript is disabled. Unlike in VGC, all Pokémon default to level 100 instead of level 50. So I’m going to format this by going through the different tier barriers (RU/NU, UU/RU, OU/UU) and then getting to my observation. For Pokemon Sun on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Smogon OU Viability Ranking (Pokebank)" - Page 9. You must log in or register to reply here. The meta being a lot slower makes its 97 Base Speed really good, and it hits even harder than Clef does with the LO set. For Pokemon Sun on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Smogon OU Viability Ranking (Pokebank)" - Page 8. I agree that it should. The Now Playing thread allows players to discuss current suspects, as well as any metagame trends including newly released Pokémon, newly successful sets or ideas, and potentially broken threats. EDIT: Why the bulk for Lando's Rock Tomb? Reserved for the best Pokemon in the Battle Stadium Singles metagame. I am not saying that Spectrier is S, but it is definitely not that bad. As a quick aside, you’ll see me reference Viability … Contribute to smogon/pokemon-showdown development by creating an account on GitHub. So if you remember the old threads you'll realize that there's been a change of plans. Post intelligently. But this one in particular made me examine something about how Smogon ranks Pokemon independent of usage. Because of a beautiful Fire / Dragon typing and decent bulk, Mega Charizard X finds plenty of opportunities to set up against the likes of Rotom-W, Raikou, Mega Manectric, Celebi, Ferrothorn, Volcarona, Mega Scizor, Skarmory, and Mega Sableye lacking Foul Play. OU is an extremely diverse tier consisting of many powerful Pokémon, but these are just some Pokémon to always remember to cater for when teambuilding! I'm going to throw in my support for S Zapdos as well. yay lots of support for Zapdos. The Viability Rankings categorize each tier's viable Pokémon into six categories: S, A, B, C, D, and E, with the most influential Pokémon residing in S rank and the most niche Pokémon in E rank. Everyone is encouraged to post thoughts and opinions on Pokemon that are usable in the metagame and what rank they should fall under. Boots rendering Rocks useless is the ultimate slap in the face to Smogon. 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